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January 16, 2013


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Recently I stumbled across a lot of posts here on DA concerned with drawing the human form, and how to differentiate easily between the male and female form without drawing upon obvious sexual characteristics. It's aaaalll about the skeletal structure.

Basically, as a rule of thumb, the skeleton of a man has wider shoulders than hips, in a "V" shape. The skeleton of a woman has wider hips than shoulders, though not quite as drastically so as the opposite in men. More like an "8" shape. To confuse matters, make them both the same width for an androgynous looking thing. It's simple and it works. As a rule of thumb.

By sticking to this, you can get away without ginormous boobies on your Fe-MOCs, and having... idk, hair or somethin' on a He-MOC.

The post in question is this: Gender Dysphoria by Candy2021 by :iconcandy2021:. I really, really reccomend looking up some of her posts concerning proportions and body types. Even though they're geared towards drawing, they also apply to 3D models and MOC making - perhaps even moreso, as quite often with us there's a real skeleton to build instead of an inferred or imagined one.
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Rahiden Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Huh, interesting. I shall have to keep that in mind.
That said, I'll always prefer building Rahi :P
Lol-Pretzel Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
And well you should. :)
3rdeye88 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is cool. Thanks for sharing. I only have two female MOCs, and even then Isra is the only one that is truly feminine looking. I gave her big hips cause I wanted to accentuate her legs more, but its cool to see that that's actually more the way to go with giving a character a feminine body structure. :)
Lol-Pretzel Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
I'd love to see Aqualia redone this way.
3rdeye88 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmmm yeah. Aqualia is one of those earlier MOCs of mine that's just kinda there. There's nothing overly special about her I think. I think her and Shui Long could use for an update. Now I just need to get a bajillion HF bone parts to make shui's body. :P
King-Cyan Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013

this is great, i should seriously work on custom waists/shoulders for my femmes/males
theMOCmaker Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
Thanks man!
AuRonTheChampion Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Student General Artist


While it isn't OK to exaggerate on certain... areas, of the model, one should relaxe a bit more about other things. In the end, the only real way to differentiate MOC gender is shoulder and hip position/length. Arm length isn't as important, and one can easily get away with having the arms reaching to the mid-thigh instead of the upper-thigh.

Nonetheless, glad you posted this. I'm sure it'll help some of the up-and-comers get better.
Lol-Pretzel Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
Leg length is key too. Women have shorter legs compared to body length than men.
GreyDogg Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
Yay! Great points 'Gat. I know I'm going to be making some better mocs thanks to this, and i'm sure i'm not the only one. Tyvm
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